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PostSubject: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:16 pm

Well, recently i dueled with Gladiator beasts and came to this situation: I had a GB and the trap war chairot on field. The opponent used Effect veiler's eff in my main phase to stop my effect later. But i don't know if war chairot can be activated to stop an effect which comes from my opponents hand. Can somebody tell me if i can activate war chairot in this situation and WHY?

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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:56 pm

If am not wrong it is ignition effect ( monster effect that is activated in MP1 or MP2 ) , since GBWC negates monsters effects (hand , field , or graveyard ) so it can negate effect veiler .
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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:01 pm

The problem was, i didnt check if it negates from hand or graveyard, but after your post, i checked on tcg and every answer says yea Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:20 pm

Why would you even use chariot on veiler?
He doesnt stop GBs from tagging

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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Tue May 03, 2011 10:47 am

Effect Veiler's effect is quick-effect.
It doesn't stop GB's from returning to deck, but it stop them to summon another GB.

Effect Veiler is not Skill Drain.
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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Tue May 03, 2011 12:29 pm

e^ipi+1=0 wrote:
Effect Veiler's effect is quick-effect.
It doesn't stop GB's from returning to deck, but it stop them to summon another GB.

Effect Veiler is not Skill Drain.

That is the purpose, to get another GB you have to chairot veiler. In some situations this is needed very useful.

But how doesnt he negate all GBs effect?

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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Tue May 03, 2011 4:28 pm

He does negate some effects, but it would just have to be in the main phase. Tagging out is at the end of the battle phase so you couldn't veiler it but you can still stop some effects like secutor(i think) as well as laquari and hippo(can't remember how to spell the whole thing). You can also obviously veiler octavius and the fusion monsters since they have non-tag in effects.
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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Tue May 03, 2011 4:49 pm

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That is the purpose, to get another GB you have to chairot veiler. In some situations this is needed very useful.

But how doesnt he negate all GBs effect?

It works pretty much like:
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If "Forbidden Chalice" is used on "Exiled Force", you can Tribute "Exiled Force" and send it to the Graveyard, but since the effect activates on the field, the effect of "Exiled Force" is negated. (Remember: You cannot Chain "Forbidden Chalice" to negate "Exiled Force's" effect since "Exiled Force" has been Tributed at that point, and is no longer a face-up monster on the field. Therefore, it is an ineligible target.)

And you can just drop veiler in your opponent's main phase.When the GB's effect activated at the end of battle phase, the effect will still negated.



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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Tue May 03, 2011 5:20 pm

but i think even tagging out is an effect, isnt it O.O

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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Tue May 03, 2011 5:22 pm

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Returning this card to the deck is a cost to activate the effect.[2]
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Gladiator_Beast_Equeste
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PostSubject: Re: Effect veıler and GB's war chaırot   Tue May 03, 2011 6:24 pm

Nice one ^^'

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